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Fwd: CRYOLIST Digest, Vol 64, Issue 4

Betsy Turner-Bogren
Hello Cryolist Administrators,

The attached Digest, Vol 64, Issue 4 seems to have forwarded an announcement that I submitted the previous day (see Vol. 64, Issue 3).
The announcement below introduces quite a bit of garble (see #4)  that may cause confusion to CRYOLIST subscribers.

Please let me know if you can post a correction to the material posted by (Stefan Koch (mountain risk)).

Thanks!
-Betsy

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Betsy Turner-Bogren
Project Manager
Arctic Research Consortium of the U.S. (ARCUS)
3535 College Road Suite 101
Fairbanks, AK 99709-3710
Phone: 907/474-1600
[hidden email]


Follow ARCUS on twitter: @ArcticResearch





> Begin forwarded message:
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> Subject: CRYOLIST Digest, Vol 64, Issue 4
> Date: June 7, 2015 at 12:01:58 PM AKDT
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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re: Glaciers: The Politics of Ice ? new publication! [special
>      price for CRYOLIST members] (Roger J. Braithwaite)
>   2. Re: Glaciers: The Politics of Ice ? new publication! [special
>      price for CRYOLIST members] (Ute Herzfeld)
>   3. Southern Ocean Observing System (SOOS) workshops to be
>      livestreamed this week ([hidden email])
>   4. Re: Call for se_6art,, ysse5,Hayt?#ds Y # to the 2015 Sea Ice
>      Outlook (SIO)- June report (based on May data)
>      (Stefan Koch (mountainrisk))
>   5. May I Introduce the Glacier Preservation Project? (Seth Eagleton)
>   6. Re: Glaciers: The Politics of Ice ? new publication! [special
>      price for CRYOLIST members] (Matt Nolan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 22:11:58 +0000
> From: "Roger J. Braithwaite" <[hidden email]>
> To: Jorge Daniel Taillant <[hidden email]>,
> "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CRYOLIST] Glaciers: The Politics of Ice ? new
> publication! [special price for CRYOLIST members]
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
> With all due respect, I find the tone of this advert(?) rather demeaning to the professionalism of most of its recipients. I sincerely hope the science (and politics) of the book is better than suggested by this message.
>
> The statement "You will learn about ice and glaciers located in places you likely never imagined might be glaciated, including regions like Mexico, Armenia, Iran, Columbia, Australia, Indonesia, Venezuela, Turkey, Uganda, Nevada and Southern California" is dreadfully patronizing to subscribers to Cryolist. Most subscribers will wonder whether the author really means "glacierized" rather than "glaciated", as very many parts of the world have been glaciated at some time in the past.
>
> Does Cryolist have any policy about advertising? Many Cryolist messages draw our attention to jobs, studentships, meetings, research opportunities etc but this message comes close to advertising a product that the sender will benefit from if we all rush out to buy it. Personally, I will wait to read a book review in a decent journal before I buy.
>
> Roger J. Braithwaite
> Manchester
> ________________________________
> From: CRYOLIST [[hidden email]] on behalf of Jorge Daniel Taillant [[hidden email]]
> Sent: 04 June 2015 15:31
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [CRYOLIST] Glaciers: The Politics of Ice ? new publication! [special price for CRYOLIST members]
>
>
> SCIENCE, SOCIETY, POLITICS and the Cryosphere come together in
>
> GLACIERS: The Politics of Ice, by Jorge Daniel Taillant (Oxford University Press)
>
> Learn about emerging CRYOACTIVISM! and the birth of the World's First Glacier Protection Law!
>
> [cid:836F6F45-6277-4738-A1AD-AFAE72C10144]
> ?
> ?
> [SELECTED EXCERPTS]
>
> Given that only 2% of the Earth's freshwater is in ice and that 3/4 of that water is in glaciers ... and considering that melting glaciers are one of the tell-tale signs of climate change, why is it that no country ever considered a law to protect glaciers!??? No country ... until recently that is!
>
> In this book you will read about a fascinating world of ice critical to human existence but that few people have never heard of. If you keep your smartphone or tablet handy or have Google Earth running on your computer while you read, you will be able to see this frozen world in a mere few key strokes.
>
> You will read about invisible glaciers, and unimaginable glacier ice that can cause tsunami-like waves and even ice that can catch on fire! You will read about colossal amounts of ice that many millions of people depend on but take for granted while it becomes one of the world?s most important, most vulnerable, and yet most ignored and unprotected natural resources. You will learn about ice and glaciers located in places you likely never imagined might be glaciated, including regions of Mexico, Armenia, Iran, Colombia, Australia, Indonesia, Venezuela, Turkey, Kenya, Uganda, Nevada and Southern California. You will learn why glaciers are important to your daily existence, and about the chilling consequences that could occur if the entire polar icecaps holding most of the world?s freshwater, melts away. It?s already happening by the way!
>
> You will read incredible stories about people and companies that have drilled into glaciers in search of gold and others that have sent missiles into glaciers in an attempt to destroy them or that proposed bulldozing glaciers and hauling glaciers off in dump trucks, or even moving glaciers from one place to another. You'll also hear about people that have been grafting glaciers for hundreds of years ... --yes, grafting ... just like a plant! ... or others that are painting mountains white in an attempt to recreate cryospheric environments!
>
> You?ll read about emerging ?cryoactivism? as environmental groups around the world from Chile to Argentina to Kyrgyzstan to Bhutan and Nepal, are teaming up to protect glacier resources. And you will read about one society?s quest (in the absence of glacier protection policies) to establish the world?s first National Glacier Protection Law  an effort that is now spilling over to other societies to emulate.
>
> You will read crazy accounts, some true, some fiction, of ancient pyramids and millenary mummies being unearthed from glacier ice telling us incredibly detailed information about the past.
>
> You will read about surfers that daringly surf glacier waves and glaciers that have swallowed up entire commercial airplanes and many years later spit out bits and pieces of perfectly frozen human history and tragedy. In fact, scientists first figured out that glaciers moved precisely because one keen observer predicted with pretty good accuracy the date that a group of unfortunate glaciologists that fell into a crevasse would reemerge decades later. And they did emerge on cue! You will hear about people stranded on ice for months on end, and even about soccer games played on floating ice.
>
> This book is about ice, specifically glacier ice, and not necessarily the glaciers we are most likely to recognize in far away and remote places like Alaska, Patagonia, Greenland, Norway, or Antarctica, where you might take a luxurious cruise ship and see the glaciers from afar, but rather other glaciers that are closer to home in places like the Sierra Nevada of California, Montana, France, Austria, Italy and Switzerland, along the Central Andes in countries like Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, and even Mexico, or in parts of Nepal and Pakistan, that while perhaps in some cases are less enormous, or less well-known, are actually far more important to our daily existence and to the existence of millions if not billions of people.
>
> This is not a scientific book full of scientific facts, but rather a social, cultural and political introspection into our cryosphere (the world of ice) that brings critical complex and rather obscure scientific information about ice and glaciers into perspective for our non-scientific lives. It reflects on the way we organize or do not organize to protect some of our planet?s most important and extremely vulnerable natural resources.
>
> to obtain a copy of Glaciers: The Politics of Ice
> USA: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/glaciers-9780199367252?prevSortField=1&sortField=1&start=3500&resultsPerPage=100&type=listing&lang=en&cc=us
> EUROPE: http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199367252.do
>
> Special offer for CRYLIST members:
> order from the Oxford University Press website and use the following code for a 30% discount!:
>
> ASPROMP8
>
>
>
> for more information, contact the author: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 18:29:11 -0600
> From: Ute Herzfeld <[hidden email]>
> To: "Roger J. Braithwaite" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>, Jorge Daniel
> Taillant <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CRYOLIST] Glaciers: The Politics of Ice ? new
> publication! [special price for CRYOLIST members]
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Right on, Roger! I second.
>
> Ute Herzfeld
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Roger J. Braithwaite <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> With all due respect, I find the tone of this advert(?) rather demeaning
>> to the professionalism of most of its recipients. I sincerely hope the
>> science (and politics) of the book is better than suggested by this message.
>>
>> The statement "You will learn about ice and glaciers located in places you
>> likely never imagined might be glaciated, including regions like Mexico,
>> Armenia, Iran, Columbia, Australia, Indonesia, Venezuela, Turkey, Uganda,
>> Nevada and Southern California" is dreadfully patronizing to subscribers to
>> Cryolist. Most subscribers will wonder whether the author really means
>> "glacierized" rather than "glaciated", as very many parts of the world have
>> been glaciated at some time in the past.
>>
>> Does Cryolist have any policy about advertising? Many Cryolist messages
>> draw our attention to jobs, studentships, meetings, research opportunities
>> etc but this message comes close to advertising a product that the sender
>> will benefit from if we all rush out to buy it. Personally, I will wait to
>> read a book review in a decent journal before I buy.
>>
>>   Roger J. Braithwaite
>> Manchester
>>      ------------------------------
>> *From:* CRYOLIST [[hidden email]] on behalf of Jorge
>> Daniel Taillant [[hidden email]]
>> *Sent:* 04 June 2015 15:31
>> *To:* [hidden email]
>> *Subject:* [CRYOLIST] Glaciers: The Politics of Ice ? new publication!
>> [special price for CRYOLIST members]
>>
>>
>> SCIENCE, SOCIETY, POLITICS *and the Cryosphere* come together in
>>
>> *GLACIERS: The Politics of Ice,* by Jorge Daniel Taillant (Oxford
>> University Press)
>>
>> Learn about emerging *CRYOACTIVISM*! and the birth of the *World's First* Glacier
>> Protection Law!
>>
>>
>> ?
>> ?
>> [SELECTED EXCERPTS]
>>
>> Given that only 2% of the Earth's freshwater is in ice and that 3/4 of
>> that water is in glaciers ... and considering that melting glaciers are one
>> of the tell-tale signs of climate change, why is it that *no country ever
>> considered a law to protect glaciers*!??? No country ... until recently
>> that is!
>>
>> In this book you will read about a fascinating world of ice critical to
>> human existence but that few people have never heard of. If you keep your
>> smartphone or tablet handy or have *Google Earth* running on your
>> computer while you read, you will be able to see this frozen world in a
>> mere few key strokes.
>>
>> You will read about *invisible glaciers*, and unimaginable glacier ice
>> that can cause tsunami-like waves and even *ice that can catch on fire*!
>> You will read about colossal amounts of ice that many millions of people
>> depend on but take for granted while it becomes one of the world?s most
>> important, most vulnerable, and yet *most ignored* and *unprotected*
>> natural resources. You will learn about ice *and glaciers *located in
>> places you likely never imagined might be glaciated, including regions of
>> Mexico, Armenia, Iran, Colombia, Australia, Indonesia, Venezuela, Turkey,
>> Kenya, Uganda, Nevada and Southern California. You will learn why glaciers
>> are important to your daily existence, and about the chilling consequences
>> that could occur if the entire polar icecaps holding most of the world?s
>> freshwater, melts away. *It?s already happening by the way!*
>>
>> You will read incredible stories about people and companies that have
>> drilled into glaciers in search of gold and others that have sent missiles
>> into glaciers in an attempt to destroy them or that proposed bulldozing
>> glaciers and hauling glaciers off in dump trucks, or even *moving*
>> glaciers from one place to another. You'll also hear about people that have
>> been *grafting* glaciers for hundreds of years ... --yes, *grafting* ...
>> just like a plant! ... or others that are painting mountains white in an
>> attempt to recreate cryospheric environments!
>>
>> You?ll read about emerging ?cryoactivism? as environmental groups around
>> the world from Chile to Argentina to Kyrgyzstan to Bhutan and Nepal, are
>> teaming up to protect glacier resources. *And *you will read about one
>> society?s quest (in the absence of glacier protection policies) to
>> establish the world?s first *National Glacier Protection Law*  an effort
>> that is now spilling over to other societies to emulate.
>>
>> You will read crazy accounts, some true, some fiction, of ancient pyramids
>> and millenary mummies being unearthed from glacier ice telling us
>> incredibly detailed information about the past.
>>
>> You will read about surfers that daringly surf glacier waves and glaciers
>> that have swallowed up entire commercial airplanes and many years later
>> spit out bits and pieces of perfectly frozen human history and tragedy. In
>> fact, scientists first figured out that glaciers moved precisely because
>> one keen observer predicted with pretty good accuracy the date that a group
>> of unfortunate glaciologists that fell into a crevasse would reemerge
>> decades later. And they did emerge on cue! You will hear about people
>> stranded on ice for months on end, and even about soccer games played on
>> floating ice.
>>
>> This book is about *ice*, specifically *glacier ice*, and not necessarily
>> the glaciers we are most likely to recognize in far away and remote places
>> like Alaska, Patagonia, Greenland, Norway, or Antarctica, where you might
>> take a luxurious cruise ship and see the glaciers from afar, but rather
>> *other *glaciers that are *closer* to home in places like the Sierra
>> Nevada of California, Montana, France, Austria, Italy and Switzerland,
>> along the Central Andes in countries like Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Peru,
>> Bolivia, and even Mexico, or in parts of Nepal and Pakistan, that while
>> perhaps in some cases are less enormous, or less well-known, are actually
>> far more important to our daily existence and to the existence of millions
>> if not billions of people.
>>
>> This is not a scientific book full of scientific facts, but rather a
>> social, cultural and political introspection into our *cryosphere *(the
>> world of ice) that brings critical complex and rather obscure scientific
>> information about ice and glaciers into perspective for our non-scientific
>> lives. It reflects on the way we organize *or do not organize* to protect
>> some of our planet?s most important and extremely vulnerable natural
>> resources.
>>
>> to obtain a copy of Glaciers: The Politics of Ice
>> USA:
>> https://global.oup.com/academic/product/glaciers-9780199367252?prevSortField=1&sortField=1&start=3500&resultsPerPage=100&type=listing&lang=en&cc=us
>> EUROPE: http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199367252.do
>>
>> Special offer for CRYLIST members:
>> order from the Oxford University Press website and use the following code
>> for a 30% discount!:
>>
>> ASPROMP8
>>
>>
>>
>> for more information, contact the author: [hidden email]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> You're subscribed to the CRYOLIST mailing list
>> To send a message to the list, email [hidden email]
>> For posting guidelines, see http://cryolist.org/posting.html
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:31:29 +0000
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [CRYOLIST] Southern Ocean Observing System (SOOS) workshops
> to be livestreamed this week
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed";
> DelSp="Yes"
>
>  The SOOS workshops are being held in Hobart, Australia this week, and
> include sessions on the state of the Southern Ocean climate, and the
> implementation of a Southern Ocean Observing System.
>
> All events will be livestreamed and recorded, and will be available from
> https://livestream.com/UniversityofTasmania/events/4096919
>
> On Wednesday 10 June, the Assessing the State of the Climate in the
> Southern Ocean workshop will be livestreamed between 03:00 and 07:00 UTC.
> Details here: http://www.soos.aq/calendar?view=event&cid=78
>
> Also on Wednesday, the SOOS Public Forum and Reception will be livestreamed
> between 07:30 and 09:00 UTC.
>
> And on Thursday 11 June, the first day of the Implementation of a Southern
> Ocean Observing System workshop will be streamed between 23:00 (10/6/2015)
> and 07:00 (11/6/2015).
> Details for this workshop and the public forum here:
> http://www.soos.aq/calendar?view=event&cid=79
>
> We hope you will be able to join us virtually. If you have any questions,
> please contact me on [hidden email].
>
> Cheers,
> Pip?
>  ?
> --
> Dr Pip Bricher
> Data Officer
> Southern Ocean Observing System
>
> www.soos.aq
> facebook.com/SOOSnews
>
> SOOS International Project Office, Institute for Marine and Antarctic  
> Studies, University of Tasmania
> 20 Castray Esplanade, Battery Point
> Private Bag 110, Hobart, TAS, Australia, 7004
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 23:43:57 +0800
> From: "Stefan Koch (mountainrisk)" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email], Betsy Turner-Bogren <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CRYOLIST] Call for se_6art,, ysse5,Hayt?#ds Y # to the
> 2015 Sea Ice Outlook (SIO)- June report (based on May data)
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 19:52:51 -0600
> From: Seth Eagleton <[hidden email]>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [CRYOLIST] May I Introduce the Glacier Preservation Project?
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi all,
> Three years ago I started the Glacier Preservation Project after I learned that Glacier National Park in Montana (my backyard) will no longer have any glaciers as soon as five years from now. There are 25 left, down from about 150 around the turn of the last century. My family loves to hike so my wife and I are dragging our kids up into the mountains to photograph each glacier from an artist's perspective before we lose them forever. Right now we have launched a Kickstarter Campaign to help us raise some funds for some new gear. If you'd like to be a part of the project (there are some intern positions) then please visit our Kickstarter and our website. If you go to Kickstarter.com and search for the Glacier Preservation Project: Bidding a Final Farewell, you can find us there and follow the links to our website and social media outlets as well. Instagram is the place to be ;-) We'd love to have everyone follow along as we bid a final farewell to the glaciers of Glacier Nat
 io

> nal Park.
>
> Thank you all very much.
>
> Seth and Jill Eagleton
> Glacier Preservation Project
> [hidden email]
> 406-755-8819
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 16:56:17 -0800
> From: Matt Nolan <[hidden email]>
> To: "Roger J. Braithwaite" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>, Jorge Daniel
> Taillant <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CRYOLIST] Glaciers: The Politics of Ice ? new
> publication! [special price for CRYOLIST members]
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I nominate roger to write the review!  As long as he post it here, cryolist does need something besides adverts once in a while...  I'll even buy the book for him! -Matt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 6, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Roger J. Braithwaite <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> With all due respect, I find the tone of this advert(?) rather demeaning to the professionalism of most of its recipients. I sincerely hope the science (and politics) of the book is better than suggested by this message.
>>
>> The statement "You will learn about ice and glaciers located in places you likely never imagined might be glaciated, including regions like Mexico, Armenia, Iran, Columbia, Australia, Indonesia, Venezuela, Turkey, Uganda, Nevada and Southern California" is dreadfully patronizing to subscribers to Cryolist. Most subscribers will wonder whether the author really means "glacierized" rather than "glaciated", as very many parts of the world have been glaciated at some time in the past.
>>
>> Does Cryolist have any policy about advertising? Many Cryolist messages draw our attention to jobs, studentships, meetings, research opportunities etc but this message comes close to advertising a product that the sender will benefit from if we all rush out to buy it. Personally, I will wait to read a book review in a decent journal before I buy.
>>
>> Roger J. Braithwaite
>> Manchester
>> From: CRYOLIST [[hidden email]] on behalf of Jorge Daniel Taillant [[hidden email]]
>> Sent: 04 June 2015 15:31
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [CRYOLIST] Glaciers: The Politics of Ice ? new publication! [special price for CRYOLIST members]
>>
>>
>> SCIENCE, SOCIETY, POLITICS and the Cryosphere come together in
>>
>> GLACIERS: The Politics of Ice, by Jorge Daniel Taillant (Oxford University Press)
>>
>> Learn about emerging CRYOACTIVISM! and the birth of the World's First Glacier Protection Law!
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2015-05-28 at 11.09.37 AM.jpg>
>> ?
>> ?
>> [SELECTED EXCERPTS]
>>
>> Given that only 2% of the Earth's freshwater is in ice and that 3/4 of that water is in glaciers ... and considering that melting glaciers are one of the tell-tale signs of climate change, why is it that no country ever considered a law to protect glaciers!??? No country ... until recently that is!
>>
>> In this book you will read about a fascinating world of ice critical to human existence but that few people have never heard of. If you keep your smartphone or tablet handy or have Google Earth running on your computer while you read, you will be able to see this frozen world in a mere few key strokes.
>>
>> You will read about invisible glaciers, and unimaginable glacier ice that can cause tsunami-like waves and even ice that can catch on fire! You will read about colossal amounts of ice that many millions of people depend on but take for granted while it becomes one of the world?s most important, most vulnerable, and yet most ignored and unprotected natural resources. You will learn about ice and glaciers located in places you likely never imagined might be glaciated, including regions of Mexico, Armenia, Iran, Colombia, Australia, Indonesia, Venezuela, Turkey, Kenya, Uganda, Nevada and Southern California. You will learn why glaciers are important to your daily existence, and about the chilling consequences that could occur if the entire polar icecaps holding most of the world?s freshwater, melts away. It?s already happening by the way!
>>
>> You will read incredible stories about people and companies that have drilled into glaciers in search of gold and others that have sent missiles into glaciers in an attempt to destroy them or that proposed bulldozing glaciers and hauling glaciers off in dump trucks, or even moving glaciers from one place to another. You'll also hear about people that have been grafting glaciers for hundreds of years ... --yes, grafting ... just like a plant! ... or others that are painting mountains white in an attempt to recreate cryospheric environments!
>>
>> You?ll read about emerging ?cryoactivism? as environmental groups around the world from Chile to Argentina to Kyrgyzstan to Bhutan and Nepal, are teaming up to protect glacier resources. And you will read about one society?s quest (in the absence of glacier protection policies) to establish the world?s first National Glacier Protection Law  an effort that is now spilling over to other societies to emulate.
>>
>> You will read crazy accounts, some true, some fiction, of ancient pyramids and millenary mummies being unearthed from glacier ice telling us incredibly detailed information about the past.
>>
>> You will read about surfers that daringly surf glacier waves and glaciers that have swallowed up entire commercial airplanes and many years later spit out bits and pieces of perfectly frozen human history and tragedy. In fact, scientists first figured out that glaciers moved precisely because one keen observer predicted with pretty good accuracy the date that a group of unfortunate glaciologists that fell into a crevasse would reemerge decades later. And they did emerge on cue! You will hear about people stranded on ice for months on end, and even about soccer games played on floating ice.
>>
>> This book is about ice, specifically glacier ice, and not necessarily the glaciers we are most likely to recognize in far away and remote places like Alaska, Patagonia, Greenland, Norway, or Antarctica, where you might take a luxurious cruise ship and see the glaciers from afar, but rather other glaciers that are closer to home in places like the Sierra Nevada of California, Montana, France, Austria, Italy and Switzerland, along the Central Andes in countries like Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, and even Mexico, or in parts of Nepal and Pakistan, that while perhaps in some cases are less enormous, or less well-known, are actually far more important to our daily existence and to the existen
>> _______________________________________________
>> You're subscribed to the CRYOLIST mailing list
>> To send a message to the list, email [hidden email]
>> For posting guidelines, see http://cryolist.org/posting.html
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